Sunday, December 19, 2004

Last Exile questions *Spoilers*/Eva The Meaning of The END
Great series but a lot of questions went unanswered.

Its obvious they aren't on earth. Are they on some sort of artificially created world or just another planet?

Did Exile create the Grand Stream? If so why?

Why was there such a huge disparity between the Guild's technology and that of the land dwellers?

Why were Disith and Anataray at war?

What exactly was Exile's purpose? And what did it morph into ?

Where were Dio and Delphine's parents when they were young? Or do Guild children even have parents?

What did the machine do to Dio?

Who created AL?

Who shot Laura Palmer?
----------------------------------
Exile was a transport colony ship for transport between Earth and Prestale that was supposed to be able to automatically be able to go back and forth. So yes, it's another planet.

What did the machine do to Dio?
It alters ones personallity it seems. For Dio it seemed to just make him psychotic like Delphine

It's another planet, clearly, and at least partially altered/artificial ("the Grand Stream" effect

[Water.]

Already answered, but I'll repeat the answer: Exile was the colony ark that carried the colonists.

Already answered, but my take is that it apparently stripped away that which we call human conscience. As Kruszer notes (although he uses the term "psychotic", which is erroneous), it turned him sociopathic. Not that Dio was all that conscience-ridden, to begin with


It was Sue Ellen... no wait... that was J.R.Let me think. Oh, I remember: it was Maggie Simpson. No, wait...

At the very end of the last episode (post grand-stream dissolving and exile revelation), I thought I saw a scene with Mullin Shetland--I was fairly certain it was Mullin--with some kids and the young Disith musketeer (I'm sorry I can't remember her name...) he fell in love with. However, a few episodes before that, I could have SWORN that Mullin died. At least it was strongly implied. So am I just mistaking different characters with one another? (probable) Or did he miraculously return to life

that Mullin was dead. I figured that they pulled a fast one at the end].

In ep 23, he was badly wounded and incapacitated after the firefight trying to seize control of "Units" (core facility providing levitation power for ships of both sides, borrowed from Guild), but that does not necessary mean he was killed. He's not a person who would die easily

were those two kids at the end supposed to me mullin's and the disith girl's? They looked to be at least 4 or 5 years old. If that's true, why didn't anyone else look older

at least some of those kids are orphans adopted by them (Claus, Lavie, Alvis, and probably many other adults are orphans themselves, so it is not surprising if they adopted some once they are economically independent

(srry i mixed these up and its your job to unmix them because i am too lazy)
-----------Eva The Meaning of The END--------------------------

The ending was in Shinji's mind and his instrumentation process. Ultimately he finds meaning and value in himself, the hallmarks of true maturity. It is strange, it is weird, but it gets at the heart of Eva's nature. The show is about people, our flaws, our strengths, our true forms. The ending strips away the giant robot device to get at the heart
The show works, there is flow, there is plot, there is synergy in the show. But the messages aren't popular and can be confusing due to the style. I think it is an important anime, one that people should see, but that doesn't mean people have to like it.

On the movies In the end, the choking of Asuka had to do with feeling alive and with Shinji overcoming his own self hatred. When Asuka places her hand upon his face, Shinji lessens his grip and begans to cry. The final words are Asuka's. There are a few other interpretations, one is that is not Asuka. Rather she is Shinji's perfect woman, an idealized version of Asuka infused with Rei. Also, Asuka was dead before the end, thus meaning possibly anyone can come back, this allows for Rei-2 to come back. If you notice, final-Asuka has bandages that are a reverse of Rei -2 and -3 bandages. There is some suggestion that the perfect woman is shaped as Asuka since Shinji has now progressed beyond his mother, and his mother figures. For any of these possiblities, it is a happy ending. Really, no joke. Shinji and final Asuka are free to live their own lives for the first time. No longer are they pawns to Gendo or SEELE or Yui. They will neither destroy the world nor build a momument to it, but live it. (That may be what Gendo wanted. Nobody knows but him and Fuyutsuki what he was planing the whole time. I really want to know, perhaps he wanted the orginal ending? Or was that SEELE's ending? I think it might just of been Gendo's plan, and that is why he was happy in Episode 26, he got the happy life with Yui. Gendo was really a tragic hero, but few believe me.)

Either that or Shinji is nutters and Anno created this as an equivlent of the bird for fans. There is some suggestion that the whole movie was a twisted way to answer fan request on unanswered questions by answering most in the most horrid possible way, while raising even more. After all, we got to know Shinji's preferance, and Asuka got to fight

One thing I just want to say is:
Gendo's "Human instrumentality project" and SEELE's "Human instrumentality project" are both different things. That is the whole reason why SEELE in End of Eva decided to attack NERV just to stop Gendo's plans. It is also related to the reason why Gendo decided to use the Lance of Langinus when SEELE didn't want him to and as an excuse, he said it was use to defend NERV. Gendo's instrumentality as shown from quotes from the T.V. episode (which I plan to discuss another time) is more of a transcendence of man to a greater being, while SEELE's instrumentality project is on man's repayment of original sin and achieving nirvana

all you need to know is shinji is nuts as the title emplies its the end. As screwed up as it may seem it all boils down to that boys decisions. Its as simple as can be. People overcomplicate it if you ask me. we refuse to belive that its just a messed up ending but when you watch it a few times, you notice a pattern... Its the same! try to take it on the simple side Shinji must make a decision either a or b his choice decides the outcome of the end. And also to those who are wondering rumor is there is a platnum edition series coming out wich has improved sound and picture quality and a directors cut which has deleated scenes and improved comentary (subed). At any rate its only rumor about the tv series so I can't guarintee it.

everyone knows that this whole thing is really in Shinji's head. The scenes of Modern Day Japan are reality -- he's living in a fantasy world he created. This jibes with both the original series ending and the End of Eva ending as well.

agree with the amalgam theory -- That isn't Asuka in the end, but all three of them as one. There is evidence to this: Asuka's body, Rei's bandages, and Misato's brown eyes (freeze-frame the part where we see her as Shinji chokes her, and you can she that her blue eyes have become brown eyes!).

Be reminded of the fact that all of this is in Shinji's head, and all three of the women used to be separate people in his dream (or his interpretation of the people around him, if you follow the original ending). All three of them are important to him, but he wishes for a world where everyone was all one. A world where he thought he would be happy, with no distinctions, no separate souls. Rei grants this wish, and we see everything break down -- we see the real world, and then we see the three Japanese VAs from the front, followed by Rei, Misato, and Asuka from the back.

Back in dream-land, when Shinji mentions to Rei that this isn't the world he wanted, Rei replies that it will be up to each soul as to whether or not they want to remain separate beings. In the end, the souls (the green crosses) move off to the heavens, Shinji remains separate of himself, and Asuka/Rei/Misato is with him as well on the borders of an LCL sea (fallout from the Egg of Lilith).

Two possibilites now exist: Either the world returned to the way it was (which it could not have, if the souls did leave Earth), or they are the Adam and Eve of a new Earth
(This IS ALL MIXED UP TOO!!!)
Comments (3)